James Tanner: Time for Oilers and Canadiens to Fire their General Managers (and Coaches) It's about half past too late already, but enough is enough.

Thanks James
Keep them both and let the teams keep spiralling down!

But the Coyotes and Sabres should keep status quo?

Tanner for new Oilers and Habs blogger.

Tanner for new Oilers and Habs blogger.
- RafiDRW

I’ll cut you Rafi.

Yakupov was a bust and he got what he could. he was shopped all over and no takers. Cant get on the GM for that one imo.

But the Coyotes and Sabres should keep status quo?
- mlindsay

Yes. Each situation is different. On Bill Maher this weekend he was lamenting people's ability to differentiate between slightly similar events and to go with all or nothing analysis. I feel his pain.

The Coyotes GM has done a great job in my opinion and the team is a work in progress.

The Sabres are brutal, but that mostly on their Tim Murray. I don't think Botterill being fired six months into his job is going to change anything.

In fact, I think the Oilers and Canadiens could follow the leads of the Coyotes and Sabres who both recently fired their old-school GMs and went with younger, smarter, more progressive guys.

For the Oilers, there are millions of people out there who have never traded three franchise players for ten cents on the dollar. They should hire one of them.

Yakupov was a bust and he got what he could. he was shopped all over and no takers. Cant get on the GM for that one imo.
- rinaldo

Then you keep him and work with him. He was what, 22 when they bailed on him? Give me a break.

But the Coyotes and Sabres should keep status quo?
- mlindsay

well both gm's are new are they not?

Then you keep him and work with him. He was what, 22 when they bailed on him? Give me a break.
- james_tanner1

age is just a number. he was a bust there and in st louis. he did nothing. thats a fact so they moved on.

why did all the gm;s bail on gormley and rundblad?

So no you give me a break genius.

James Tanner: Time for Oilers and Canadiens to Fire their General Managers (and Coaches)
It's about half past too late already, but enough is enough.
- james_tanner1

Now I’m not saying you’re wrong Tanner, but in your blog you state the Oilers are cap strapped by Lucic’s contract, but at the same time you lament the moves of Eberle and Hall, who are currently making the exact same amount. Wouldn’t it be fair to say that the Oil would still had to have dealt one of Hall or Eberle or both, even if Lucic hadn’t been signed? How would one afford McDavid, Draisaitl and those two?

Tanner for new Oilers and Habs blogger.
- RafiDRW

YES! YES! YES!

Yes. Each situation is different. On Bill Maher this weekend he was lamenting people's ability to differentiate between slightly similar events and to go with all or nothing analysis. I feel his pain.

The Coyotes GM has done a great job in my opinion and the team is a work in progress.

The Sabres are brutal, but that mostly on their Tim Murray. I don't think Botterill being fired six months into his job is going to change anything.

In fact, I think the Oilers and Canadiens could follow the leads of the Coyotes and Sabres who both recently fired their old-school GMs and went with younger, smarter, more progressive guys.

For the Oilers, there are millions of people out there who have never traded three franchise players for ten cents on the dollar. They should hire one of them.
- james_tanner1

Okay. I’ll give you Hall. Who else has been traded that’s franchise? Sure as (frank) not Eberle. He’s a very good complimentary winger. Definitely not a franchise.

Tanner for new Oilers and Habs gm
- RafiDRW

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Then you keep him and work with him. He was what, 22 when they bailed on him? Give me a break.
- james_tanner1

chayka is one of the best GMs in the game, maybe in history when all is said and done.

Why did he pass on him? does that make him a bad GM?

Yakupov was a bust and he got what he could. he was shopped all over and no takers. Cant get on the GM for that one imo.
- rinaldo

true but you also dont put a guy like Yak on the 4th line or bottom 6 role, Embrace what he is and dont try to force him into roles that he isnt made to do.

He scores, come hug. Repeat

age is just a number. he was a bust there and in st louis. he did nothing. thats a fact so they moved on.

why did all the gm;s bail on gormley and rundblad?

So no you give me a break genius.
- rinaldo

You don't get to participate in adult discussions until you submit 1000 words on false equivalencies and why they don't work to do anything but derail a conversation.

Now I’m not saying you’re wrong Tanner, but in your blog you state the Oilers are cap strapped by Lucic’s contract, but at the same time you lament the moves of Eberle and Hall, who are currently making the exact same amount. Wouldn’t it be fair to say that the Oil would still had to have dealt one of Hall or Eberle or both, even if Lucic hadn’t been signed? How would one afford McDavid, Draisaitl and those two?
- Wildschwein

It's fair to say that, I see your point, but that doesn't mean they had to give them away.

Dont forget about trading EDM first (Barzal) for G.Reinhardt, which was a terrible trade on its own, only to lose Reinhardt in the expansion draft.

Okay. I’ll give you Hall. Who else has been traded that’s franchise? Sure as (frank) not Eberle. He’s a very good complimentary winger. Definitely not a franchise.
- RafiDRW

Kessel, Seguin, Hall.

You don't get to participate in adult discussions until you submit 1000 words on false equivalencies and why they don't work to do anything but derail a conversation.
- james_tanner1

well where is this adult discussion at that you mention?

why didnt chayka sign him then? him being one of the best gm's in the game?

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- Tumbleweed

I’d be down for this.

I’ll cut you Rafi.
- Wildschwein

I hold no specific opinions that would come into disagreement with your thoughts here, James Tanner.

Continue writing in ways that do not create conflict between us on an individual level.

true but you also dont put a guy like Yak on the 4th line or bottom 6 role, Embrace what he is and dont try to force him into roles that he isnt made to do.

He scores, come hug. Repeat
- DDM-Coga

Agreed, either top 6 in the NHL or AHL, never bottom six. Kid could have stayed in the AHL for a couple years and built up his game/confidence and lit up the NHL.